Yeah it's definitely a heated debate, and I have a hard time not agreeing with both sides on certain points. I do see a lot of abuse of the downvote, often with no explanation to allow the person to self correct. It's pushing quite a few of the independent journalists away, as people downvote them for getting auto upvotes by their supporters! Agree with them or not, they put in a lot of work on their videos, they have massive followings, and we should be working with them to bring their audience here, not punishing them.

At the same time, I am super glad to see less bots, less whale bullies, less whale abuses. For years I was on Steemit, but didn't promote it to anyone because I was embarrassed by a few members, who will remain un named cause i still fear being downvoted by them.

They key in my mind is to steer the narrative, change the culture, and lead by being more successful than the idiots. You've already been playing a big part in how I see Hive, so I feel you're on the right path! Eventually it will work itself out, perhaps with more forks, and learning of lessons from said forks. Or perhaps the answers will even come from a Tribe such as Leo, by simply doing it better, and Hive following suit!

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