How much do you selfvote?
Cub, CUB , cubs, cubs... CUBS everywhere. Every second post.
I'm starting to get tired of this.
Lets talk about curation for a little change. About voting and self-upvoting.
We all do this time to time, right? Well, maybe not all, but most.
And as I see, in general, there is nothing wrong about this.
But it is not the same, if one gives 2-3% of the whole voting power to himself, and the other who does 65% or 80%.
Ever since a FLAT vote distribution algorithm was started on LeoFinance, the temptation for selfvotes went way down from the old steem days.
And it happened to many people on LeoFinance, as I can see.
But clearly the 50:50 split does not make everybody happy.
Some of them want more. More. MORE !
MORE, As MANY as possible.
As I do manual voting for most of the times, once in a while I review the voting patterns (on Hivetasks .com) of some most active authors, and big stake holders.
In general, I don't see many disgusting behaviors.
But sometimes I see numbers like this.
Everything for himself, and... a tiny tiny bits left for others?
It would not be to hard to guess, who's numbers here are shown above. And which Hive account name is obfuscated on the top line.
I leave it up to everyone of you to decide, how you would name (call) such a greedy selfish person.
You can find the recent voting patterns of any account by yourself, on hivetasks.com
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I have stopped upvoting this (and some other similar behavior) authors quite some time ago.
They accounts also siting firmly in my IGNORE lists, so making sure even smallest upvote from my auto-voter (in the early mornings) never ever lands on their posts.
I will not start them downvoting yet, but I feel I have full right to firmly IGNORE them.
Needless to say, that I will also watch closely, who are the most regular and consistent strong supporters and upvoters of these selfish people.
If you decide to be (or continue) as such - chances are that our routes will have a small chance to intercept.
Circle-Jerking is NOT the name of my game.
I am not going to tell, what one should do, or what not to do.
Just want to show some things more open. All is public on the blockchain. But not everybody knows how to see it.
Or cares to spend time searching.
I also want others community members be aware of my intentions. Express it clear, open and unambiguously.
That said, I will let everyone decide by yourself, what you want to do.
I was getting ready myself to speak about this long ago.
Still been postponing it, in hope that things will start to improve.
But seems this is not the case.
I have also reviewed the other remaining accounts of the TOP-10 Leo power holders.
So you can clearly see how outstanding that one example is. Here is my findings for the other nine:
[click it for a full SIZE]
Just see it and compare.
Your move is next.
P.S.
If you care about things I talk here, and decide to rehive (Reblog) it, I will greatly appreciate this.
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Totally agree with you . Gave you a reblog , I personally feel the self-upvotes must be removed completely.
When i was in steemit and early days of Hive I used to do it too until I realized how bad it is for the community .
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There are times they do serve a purpose like when one votes for visibility on something important.
Life if Blockrades did it on some major announcement (although he tends not to need it since he ends up trending anyway).
There are times with comments it can be applicable too.
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Well yeah but that's the purpose of promoting posts right?
I am totally okay with upvoting for visibility but most of the times it doesn't happen for visibility that's the problem.. :(
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On Leo there is that feature. I am not sure it exists on Peakd or Hive.blog.
But outside of that, there arent many reasons for it. As I said elsewhere, if a smaller account wants to get started that way, I have no problem with that.
But when someone who is one of the largest stake holders is doing it, repeatedly, that is scalping the reward pool in my opinion.
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Totally agree . I mean isn't 50% enough ? You need 100% ? That is ridiculous , it is really bad for the community . It just shows greediness openly .
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Well if you are going to do it, might as well go big.
50% in my opinion isnt much different than 100%. The numbers do change, sure, but at the end of the day it is still the principle of the matter.
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No I meant if you upvote others you get 50% back right , that too isn't enough ? The reason they self upvote is they are not okay with 50% but they need 100% to themselves.
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In short, for each case, there is a case.
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I also saw that for the community, this is not something that adds value.
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Although I have small voting power for leo and hive
I never vote for myself
I don't like what they are doing on steem right now
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What has this to do with steem?
It's about leofinance.io
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Agree. Ste*m does not deserves even to be mentioned here.
Let they burn. Let they die.
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What are they doing?
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Full voting party, like a voting swinger club but on the STEEM BC. Groups meet and just relentless vote only for each other until everything comes to an end.
This is actually an awesome tool I didn't know existed till now. I do upvote my own posts at 100% which is normally 1 a day sometimes 2 and on busy days sadly I never even get to a post.
This puts me a a 9.07% selfvote - that seems fair? Besides that my upvotes do seem to be a little heavy on a few people so I'm going to work on spreading that out some more to new people on the platform. It's honestly good to be able to see this as I wasn't sure how much of an impact and spread out my votes were till now.
I barely remember, when I voted myself last. I think, to make this community nice, we have to distribute the reward and the whole chain will benefit from it by seeing the result in price action.
Well, it seems I selfvote 1.27% of my upvotes... I do unconsciously since it is possibly because I set the autovote on any trail I follow.
In any case, I must say I don't like people who selfvote massively.
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That is how a lot of people get self votes. They are part of a trail that ends up voting their own content.
But at that percentage rate, I dont think you are going to change the reward distribution in any tribe too much.
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If someone makes good content, he would definitely get more rewards than voting himself. Self voting has been a key issue in steem days. It still persists but very few. I don't do much manual curation except when I'm reading. But a good curation can reward deserving ones and increase overall value.
Hmm, that is not ideal. I guessed first time who the account was, not sure if I'd had a look recently and it had raised an eyebrow.
This account trails leo.voter, which has been the case for a while, but because the leo.voter is voting with HP, I think it would make sense to change that. I may end up changing to trail your account based on you being manual, apart from the 'sleeping' votes.
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And as far as self-votes, 100% every post - which is 2/3 a week in LEO.
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Who's that 😁? Just a hint needed. I honestly haven't figured that out.
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Go to the LEO RICHLIST, sort from the biggest :)
https://leodex.io/richlist/LEO
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same here... I'm short on time and just try to enjoy this endless comment section.
Just post more comments.
Solves a lot of ills.
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More comments allow for more self-voting 😁
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I wouldn't think I would find myself on that list but it seems I appear for two instances with 0.60% and 0.80%. I can't remember the last time I upvoted myself but it seems I'm not perfect. I guess I should downvote some of my posts to counter balance that.
Self voting is a two edge sword the way I see it. If you're the type of user that bought most of the VP that you hold then I see no problem in voting yourself because it's clearly just a business for you.
In my case for example where 99.99% of my LP is earned through my blogging and the rewards my posts got me, then I do have some sort of a community obligation to share the love further no matter how small it is.
I usually upvote comments on my posts and to that always with 100% VP. So far though Leofinance doesn't seem to be milked and I'd say that we're clear of that thanks to the community that has been created.
You seem to be quite a detective by the way...
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I wouldnt worry about it. And some voting trails can upvote your stuff, hence giving yourself an upvote.
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I was kidding. I don't know what period of time that report tracks but I can't even remember when I last upvoted a post of mine. I guess I did since the percentage is there. Not following curation trails either.
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I used to self vote all the time. Mostly because I was ignorant to it...Didn't really understand the dynamics of it.
Now I never self vote my account even though some curation trials I'm a part of end up voting me....At like 5% lol
But now, I send the votes out to others. It's a gift and I can give it out, I think that's the way I'll vote from now on. Helps spread it out more :)
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You do pat yourself on the back a lot though.
That might be something to bring up with your therapist.
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hahahaa :D
I wished people would act like task...., being an example of preach what you teach.
For the ones who don't know how to check for LEO holding stake I will put the link and a screenshot in here, hope you don't mind:
https://leodex.io/richlist/LEO
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Thanks for the vote of confidence.
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Let's put it this way, you kick a lot of buts indirectly by example. And it works, as we have every week new ATH on engagement. It is the most active community in here.
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by far
Btw. You write a lot of comments and long ones as well. I wonder if whether you're an actual writer? It seems to be very smooth going for you.
Actually, it's harder than you might think. Who this?
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The #2 most rich Leo token holder (technical, system accounts skipped). Go to Leo RICH LIST. AS directed in other comments
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