Well-known definition of insanity @ats-david:

"... doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."

At least you are recommending a complete break out "from the box!" Nice!!

But ...

Sadly, having been "in here" for 3 years, I agree with @oldtimer ... I'll close with saying what I often find myself saying these days, "I hope to be proven wrong" ...

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